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08-31 08:29 - 'You could argue that the trust is not absolutely zero because there is still a tiny possibility that miners which are naturally competing against each other cooperate and reach 50%+ *stable* mining power for long period of...' by /u/fkee31e70c removed from /r/Bitcoin within 649-659min

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You could argue that the trust is not absolutely zero because there is still a tiny possibility that miners which are naturally competing against each other cooperate and reach 50%+ stable mining power for long period of time .... and be the biggest loser after devaluing bitcoin by double spending while being one of the biggest stake holders in bitcoin (I can't even imagine the investment to maintain stable 50%+ mining power of long period of time).
And it's the same with developers, if you don trust them and they do something controversial, bitcoin forks and you use the forked blockchain if you prefer (and sell the coins on the fork you dont like for sweet profit).
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Bitcoin Miner Riot Blockchain Racks Up $221 Million Deficit (current BTC/USD price is $8,912.29)

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Bitcoin Miner Riot Blockchain Racks Up $221 Million Deficit
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04-29 10:34 - 'GPU miners. Why they are needed, but will there be less demand after the halving?' (thecryptocurrencyforums.com) by /u/TheCCForums removed from /r/Bitcoin within 22-32min

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03-29 15:54 - 'Can Bitcoin miners live from fees?' (i.redd.it) by /u/2grills5meepos removed from /r/Bitcoin within 88-98min

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Bitmain Unveils 2 Bitcoin Miners With Max Speeds Up to 110TH/s Per Unit. The Antminer S19 Pro model with 110TH/s and 29 joules per terahash (J/TH) is 24 trillion hashes per second faster than Microbt’s latest Whatsminer M30S model (86TH/s).

Bitmain Unveils 2 Bitcoin Miners With Max Speeds Up to 110TH/s Per Unit. The Antminer S19 Pro model with 110TH/s and 29 joules per terahash (J/TH) is 24 trillion hashes per second faster than Microbt’s latest Whatsminer M30S model (86TH/s). submitted by EducationalLadder to CryptoCurrencyTrading [link] [comments]

10-29 15:33 - 'Are Miners Losing Interest In Bitcoin Cash?' (youtu.be) by /u/Crypto-Cousins removed from /r/Bitcoin within 22-32min

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03-29 02:44 - 'Just got into mining with an A9 Z Master miner. Have a quick question.' (self.Bitcoin) by /u/Moneymakers25 removed from /r/Bitcoin within 221-231min

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So the A9 Zmaster that I purchased a week ago online arrived today. And the power supply it came with of course like everything doesn't work. So I thought ok, I'm probably smart enough to get this to work. So I did about 30 minutes of research and landed on a EVGA 1000g +. All I want to do is get this miner to work. I need to get it powered up
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Video Game League sneaks bitcoin miner into it's anti-cheat client. (29.2 btc in 2 weeks)

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10-29 11:43 - 'New Bitcoin miner released by eBang, what is your opinion on it?' (antminermegashop.cc) by /u/KindlyKnowledge removed from /r/Bitcoin within 51-61min

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01-29 04:23 - 'Looking for Crypto Miner Located in Hong Kong/China' (self.Bitcoin) by /u/buzzcusto removed from /r/Bitcoin within 24-34min

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Hi everyone,
I am wondering if there are any bitcoin/altcoin miners out there in Hong Kong or China? I am looking to buy bitcoins off of you directly on a long term basis, for a fair price. That way you can quickly sell your coins and do not have to go through the hassle/wasted time of selling your bitcoins via exchanges!
I can pay via cash, bank transfer, alipay and more.
Let me know if you are interested. Thanks!
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11-29 01:13 - 'Dragonmint Miners - The truth' (youtu.be) by /u/AussieCryptoKing removed from /r/Bitcoin within 59-69min

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10-07 18:12 - 'Shower thoughts: BCH is a who..e, Unknown miner her husband, EDA is the pimp' (self.Bitcoin) by /u/ellahammadaoui removed from /r/Bitcoin within 29-39min

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Husband cant fulfill his duties ( less than 6 f*** in 12 hours), Pimp intervenes and brings the miners for a partouze party that lasts 2-days. They leave B[ia]CH exhausted for the unknown miner to clean the mess for 12 hours.
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06-29 05:32 - 'I'm a poor BTC miner donate?' (self.Bitcoin) by /u/toxictics removed from /r/Bitcoin within 27-37min

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Can someone send me like hardly any Bitcoins to my wallet pls I need to get it started?
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07-29 14:52 - 'Cryptocurrency miners are renting Boeing 747s to ship graphics cards' (pcgamer.com) by /u/DrUnnecessary removed from /r/Bitcoin within 27-37min

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05-29 01:52 - 'Those few big miners have a strong economic incentive for bitcoin to succeed...that's a pillar of how bitcoin works. But in any case, good luck to you. Without an economic majority, which it does not appear you have (despite this ce...' by /u/Cmoz removed from /r/Bitcoin within 0-8min

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Those few big miners have a strong economic incentive for bitcoin to succeed...that's a pillar of how bitcoin works. But in any case, good luck to you. Without an economic majority, which it does not appear you have (despite this censored echo chamber of a subreddit), you're doomed to failure. I'll be ready to dump my UASF coins.
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01-29 09:37 - 'Further, it's spineless that u/nullc is attempting to get out of the fact that the president of his company, went to China to persuade miners to run Blockstream software or as u/nullc explains it, "his software". And now he's...' by /u/PatOBr1en removed from /r/Bitcoin within 58-63min

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Further, it's spineless that nullc is attempting to get out of the fact that the president of his company, went to China to persuade miners to run Blockstream software or as nullc explains it, "his software". And now he's trying to get out of the fact that it happened at all! Fantastic story. Nobody buys it. Nobody buys the nullc toxicity, nobody buys the diversion tactics, or that nullc is somehow developing while trolling people on reddit.
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10-29 03:57 - 'Depressingly, it doesn't matter what I or anyone else thinks. If a single word is not on message, it will get voted down. What's the point. / Emails, phone calls, messages, etc are being made to all the miners to upgrade. / fa...' by /u/Coins103 removed from /r/Bitcoin within 87-92min

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Depressingly, it doesn't matter what I or anyone else thinks. If a single word is not on message, it will get voted down. What's the point.
Emails, phone calls, messages, etc are being made to all the miners to upgrade.
fait accompli.
Even as a supporter of what segwit enables, it still feels depressing.
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Bitcoin network just made two new all-time highs: difficulty and mining hash rate

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03-29 19:46 - 'I fail to understand how raising blocksize to 2mb would fail the bitcoin project in 2016, if they promised the Chinese miners to raise it to the same in 2017!' by /u/PizzaBoyHere removed from /r/Bitcoin within 178-183min

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I fail to understand how raising blocksize to 2mb would fail the bitcoin project in 2016, if they promised the Chinese miners to raise it to the same in 2017!
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On the Nature of Miner Advantages in Uncapped Block Size Fee Markets | Daniele Pinna | Aug 29 2015 /r/bitcoin_devlist

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The underrated stock survey! Submit your picks for the community to track

Following on the previous tracking post (http://redd.it/i2mmzg) and the highly upvoted request from DJ-Ascii , I've set up this post for another round of underrated or undervalued stock picks.
As before, let us know what stock you believe is underrated and a consistent winner that has done well for you, or you believe will do well going forward.
In order to make this easier to track please use the following guidelines for submitting.
  1. Only one submission per comment. You can make multiple comments, but please only submit one stock per comment.
  2. Please include at least the ticker and the company name. Feel free to explain why you think this is a good stock.
I'll add these new picks alongside the old survey so as to update you on each portfolio over time. Don't worry about any overlaps.
Edit 1: I've compiled everyone who has posted so far, but I'll look out for any final additions tomorrow. The list will then be locked EOD on Friday the 7th of August, and all prices will start from there.
Edit 2: All picks have now been locked down and consolidated into the list below. Stocks are sorted in alphabetical order of their company name and the ID corresponds to the approximate order in which they were submitted. The next update will be in 30 days.
ID Company Symbol Provided by Upvotes 8/7/2020
194 10X Genomics Inc TXG Unlucky-Prize 1 $96.13
111 1ST TR EXCHANGE/NASDAQ CEA CYBERSEC CIBR komoggmu321 1 $35.40
176 2U Inc TWOU DickDaddy 1 $41.49
110 AAR Corp. AIR paulo92834 4 $18.77
180 ACM Research Inc ACMR moveitover 1 $101.92
23 Activision Blizzard, Inc. ATVI Mondanivalo 12 $82.47
8 Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. AMD ArneGo, apqwer, LoveOfProfit 13 $84.85
28 Ageagle Aerial Systems Inc UAVS fishkillr 16 $3.26
205 Agraflora Organics International Inc AGRA spreeshark 1 $0.05
22 Air Canada TSE:AC priamXus 0 $15.73
19 Alexion Pharmaceuticals, Inc. ALXN fisk47 39 $103.28
70 Alibaba Group Holding Ltd - ADR BABA helio987, ScreeMart, Necessary_Club_6714 -1 $252.10
17 Ally Financial Inc ALLY jcurtis44 1 $21.47
24 Alteryx Inc AYX Kme2 30 $121.38
222 Altimmune Inc ALT Spes-Caritas 1 $27.38
117 Altria Group Inc MO ARGENT_UM_PUR, gm14202 1 $42.17
143 American Tower Corp AMT editviewgo 1 $257.61
175 American Water Works Company Inc AWK InfamousLegato 1 $149.79
183 Anglo Asian Mining LON:AAZ krenaldi1 1 $161.50
129 Aphria Inc APHA Aprhria, Bdghablig 1 $4.47
119 Apple Inc. AAPL tcldstnvdw -1 $444.45
184 Ares Capital Corporation ARCC ThemChecks 1 $14.87
54 ASML Holding NV ASML EthosPathosLegos, earthmoonsun 15 $366.07
113 Atlassian Corporation PLC TEAM shadowrckts 1 $170.93
224 Avalara Inc AVLR nomdeplume_alias 1 $122.71
244 Axon Enterprise Inc AAXN ansofteng 1 $83.88
150 Aytu Bioscience Inc AYTU Bkzkilla2, beefy-ambulance, subaruveganguy22 2 $1.38
236 Banco Bbva Argentina SA BBAR GAV17 1 $4.23
128 Bank of America Corp BAC oobydoobydoobydoo, wrs97 2 $26.11
247 BELLUS Health Inc BLU NhatNguyen2112 1 $2.74
29 Berkshire Hathaway Inc. Class B BRK.B Jeroen_Jrn, Cuza 31 $209.48
45 Best Buy Co Inc BBY 1madeamistake 2 $102.90
35 Beyond Meat Inc BYND Kreisensalat, Flipside 8 $131.51
33 BlackBerry Ltd BB mh1t, EthosPathosLegos 25 $4.84
208 Blackline Inc BL veebeew 2 $79.26
196 Booz Allen Hamilton Holding Corporation BAH i_smel_hookers 1 $84.67
75 Boston Beer Company Inc SAM Top_Island 2 $825.79
114 Brainstorm Cell Therapeutics Inc BCLI BigSexyTolo 2 $12.79
92 Brookfield Asset Management Inc BAM duongroi, Avaronah 2 $32.32
187 Brookfield Property Partners LP Unit BPY Onarco 1 $11.75
140 Brookfield Renewable Partners LP BEP YourPineapplePunch 1 $45.25
227 Cameco Corp CCJ jh4962772, Commandobolt, 3STmotivation 13 $10.37
109 Canadian Solar Inc. CSIQ MrMineHeads, vvv561 6 $25.32
204 Cardlytics Inc CDLX whossayn, YarManYak 2 $66.28
146 CBS Corporation Common Stock VIAC 1987supertramp 1 $26.21
74 CD PROJEKT S A/ADR OTGLY Thtb 8 $28.50
229 CDW common stock CDW plorfu 1 $114.77
95 CEL-SCI Corporation CVM Golden_Pineapple 1 $12.19
242 Chegg Inc CHGG Boots2243 1 $86.98
36 Cloudflare Inc NET thereisnospoongeek, olliemacg, Boots2243 220 $40.06
80 COLLIER CREEK H/SH CL A CCH RIC_FLAIR-WOOO 5 $13.84
246 Coty Inc COTY NhatNguyen2112 1 $4.00
209 Cresco Labs Inc CRLBF UncleSlippyFist 1 $6.28
3 Crispr Therapeutics AG CRSP emtvaikkajoku 98 $89.81
142 Crown Castle International Corp CCI jkgator 1 $168.19
16 CureVac Pending IPO Tangerinho 8 #N/A
223 CVS Health Corp CVS handsomeandsmart_ 2 $64.96
65 Cyberark Software Ltd CYBR Kevenam 2 $110.59
239 CytoDyn Inc CYDY dufmum 1 $4.79
165 Daqo New Energy Corp DQ stonk_daddy 1 $122.55
241 DexCom, Inc. DXCM InformalAid 1 $440.70
6 Dicerna Pharmaceuticals Inc DRNA earthmoonsun 7 $21.03
73 Digital Turbine Inc APPS toop4 6 $22.59
130 Docusign Inc DOCU h3ku, Teach-101 0 $204.76
185 Draftkings Inc DKNG boomshalock 1 $34.09
39 Drive Shack Inc DS Bobjenkins97 2 $1.65
4 Editas Medicine Inc EDIT earthmoonsun 7 $34.71
145 Edwards Lifesciences Corp EW TheTubbyOlive 1 $76.94
139 EHang Holdings Ltd - ADR EH TheEUR0PEAN 1 $9.21
230 Electrameccanica Vehicles Corp SOLO IHaveUsernameBlock 1 $3.07
118 Elevate Credit Inc ELVT ScoreFuture 1 $2.58
218 Else Nutrition Holdings Inc BABYF PringlesAreUs 1 $1.36
85 Empire State Realty Trust Inc ESRT silverpaw1786 4 $6.66
21 Enphase Energy Inc ENPH deGoblin 31 $72.84
197 Equinix Inc EQIX gce1010 3 $791.70
86 Essent Group Ltd ESNT veggie-man 1 $35.82
235 Etsy Inc ETSY PeskyShart 1 $135.06
84 Fastly Inc FSLY AwesomeMathUse 3 $79.33
93 Federal National Mortgage Association FNMA figbuilding, onkel_axel 2 $2.12
168 Fire & Flower Holdings Corp TSE:FAF tobcar 1 $1.01
207 First Mining Gold Corp FFMGF RecCenterBall 0 $0.41
219 FLIR Systems, Inc. FLIR zerokarma 1 $37.48
52 Fluor Corporation (NEW) FLR lost_searching 2 $11.38
90 FORUM MERGER II/SH CL A FMCI Mug_of_coffee 3 $14.53
81 Franco Nevada Corp FNV AwesomeMathUse 1 $153.57
155 FuelCell Energy Inc FCEL i-kno-nothing, dewaser 2 $2.68
98 Games Workshop Group PLC OTCMKTS:GMWKF MAUSECOP, Thenattylimit 2 $120.95
115 GameStop Corp. GME EmployerOfTheMonth 2 $4.16
200 Gan Ltd GAN emcdeezy22 2 $20.29
159 General Motors Company GM Buttershine_Beta -1 $26.72
251 Genius Brands International Inc GNUS due11 1 $1.59
156 GFL Environmental Inc GFL lenadunhamsbutthole 1 $21.56
99 Gilead Sciences, Inc. GILD Leroy--Brown 1 $69.35
138 GLB X FUNDS/HEALTH & WELLNESS T BFIT Venhuizer 2 $20.69
126 GLB X FUNDS/VIDEO GAMES & ESPORTS E HERO sgtyzi 1 $26.00
186 Golden Minerals Co AUMN YEEEEEAAAAA 1 $0.44
151 Gran Colombia Gold Corp TSE:GCM Linnake 0 $7.46
67 Grayscale Bitcoin Trust (Btc) GBTC asherlevi 2 $13.06
234 Great Panther Mining Ltd GPL Tony0x01 1 $0.93
152 H&R Real Estate Investment Trust HR.UN CaptainCanuck93 0 $10.34
122 Helen of Troy Limited HELE aa341 1 $201.26
55 Hikma Pharmaceuticals Plc HKMPF Marvins-Room 1 $31.08
20 Horizon Therapeutics PLC HZNP thesearchforanswer 3 $76.06
103 Huntington Ingalls Industries Inc HII howtoreadspaghetti 1 $167.90
9 IAC/Interactivecorp IAC dvdmovie1 36 $133.05
61 Ibio Inc IBIO PrairieDogger69 1 $3.80
101 Immunovia AB (publ) IMMNOV jennyther 3 $161.60
108 Ingles Markets, Incorporated IMKTA kimjungoon 1 $42.97
77 Inmode Ltd INMD meta-cognizant, craneman813 4 $31.77
123 Innovative Industrial Properties Inc IIPR Dalis_Ktm 1 $114.63
201 Inseego Corp INSG esoccer141414 1 $12.08
214 Inspire Medical Systems Inc INSP JPINFV2 1 $104.92
134 Intel Corporation INTC ionlypwn, TitanCrasher54, niknikniknikniknik1 5 $48.03
5 Intellia Therapeutics Inc NTLA earthmoonsun 7 $19.83
164 Intuitive Surgical, Inc. ISRG swalloforswallo 2 $685.85
252 INVESCO EXCHANG/SOLAR ETF TAN z74al 2 $51.20
71 InVitae Corp NVTA emtvaikkajoku, CrackHeadRodeo 6 $28.43
228 ISHARES TGLB CLEAN ENERGY ET ICLN drheman25Q 1 $15.88
112 John B. Sanfilippo & Son, Inc. JBSS chris011186 2 $89.24
171 JPMorgan Chase & Co. JPM wrs97 1 $99.38
58 Jumia Technologies AG - ADR JMIA Jerund, souptrades, 7YearOldCodPlayer, CharlieBrown364, fortnitehead 7 $19.26
144 Kaleyra Inc KLR souptrades 1 $5.87
158 KEFI Minerals plc LON:KEFI Scipio-Africannabis- 1 $1.88
216 Kirkland Lake Gold Ltd KL Newusername 1 $52.58
238 Kroger Co KR bxkrish 1 $35.24
2 Lemonade Inc LMND br1ghtness, skkreet, hahadumblloyd 4 $66.84
15 Limelight Networks, Inc. LLNW cyberdex, thug_funnie 3 $6.10
63 Livongo Health Inc LVGO staniel_diverson, Raybay192, Drifter 1996, moveitover 22 $120.88
182 Logitech International SA LOGI CharlieBrown364 1 $73.03
217 LONZA GRP AG/ADR LZAGY Fuck512 1 $62.92
66 Lydall, Inc. LDL Henisockle 1 $20.89
191 Macerich Co MAC skvettlappen 1 $7.85
97 Magnachip Semiconductor Corp MX samtony234 1 $12.08
233 Mamamancini's Holdings Inc MMMB Jayesslee 1 $1.70
88 Match Group Inc MTCH BallinLikeImKobe24 1 $115.88
79 Maverix Metals Inc MMX AwesomeMathUse 1 $4.61
107 Maxar Technologies Inc MAXR Borne2Run 1 $24.74
221 Mediwound Ltd MDWD blueblade408 1 $3.91
34 Mercadolibre Inc MELI pontoumporcento 14 $1,193.97
161 Micron Technology, Inc. MU Wexoch 3 $48.75
253 Microsoft Corporation MSFT TBSchemer 34 $212.48
179 Millicom International Cellular SA(SWE) STO:TIGO-SDB joseph460 1 $245.50
116 Mills Music Trust Unit OTCMKTS:MMTRS ARGENT_UM_PUR 1 $39.00
10 Molson Coors Beverage Co Class B TAP howtoreadspaghetti 1 $37.27
170 Morgan Stanley MS wrs97 1 $50.35
127 Naspers Limited NPSNY Demandredz 1 $34.60
11 Nathan's Famous, Inc. NATH howtoreadspaghetti 1 $51.25
181 NCR Corporation NCR IAMBEOWULFF, fistymonkey1337 4 $20.11
211 NESTLE S A/S ADR NSRGY suburban_robot 1 $118.47
124 New Relic Inc NEWR Dalis_Ktm 1 $53.62
249 New York Mortgage Trust Inc NYMT ToKeepAndToHoldForev 1 $2.77
162 New York Times Co NYT jonhuang 1 $45.61
69 Nio Inc - ADR NIO makesalotofmoney, Carrera_GT, Charlie Brown364 3 $13.42
59 Nokia Oyj NOK perfectriot, LiabilityFree 52 $4.98
37 Novacyt SA ALNOV Snoopmatt 1 $3.60
254 Nuance Communications Inc. NUAN IwantmyMTZ 1 $29.48
13 NVIDIA Corporation NVDA TBSchemer, friedtea15 66 $447.98
198 NVR, Inc. NVR Linnake 1 $3,875.01
154 Okta Inc OKTA Bcr731 3 $208.23
160 Opko Health Inc. OPK CS1026 1 $5.63
100 ORSTED A/S/ADR DNNGY BrentfordFC21 2 $47.37
190 Otonomy Inc OTIC Unlucky-Prize 1 $3.56
46 Oxford BioMedica plc OXB arabidopsis 12 $850.00
121 Pacific Ethanol Inc PEIX adamtejot 1 $2.69
220 Pagerduty Inc PD throthrowth 2 $29.85
25 Pan African Resources plc PAF Fruity_Pineapple 2 $26.30
245 Paradox Interactive AB (publ) OTCMKTS:PRXXF I_worship_odin 1 $24.30
174 Patriot One Technologies Inc PTOTF DanReynolds 1 $0.73
148 Peabody Energy Corporation BTU aviatoraway1 0 $2.52
237 Peloton Interactive Inc PTON loosetingles 1 $68.30
188 Penn National Gaming, Inc PENN Calpool 1 $49.00
87 Pershing Square Tontine Holdings, Ltd NYSE:PSTH-UN 5_yr_lurker 7 $21.08
31 Pharmacyte Biotech Inc PMCB DillieTheSquid 0 $0.01
47 Pinterest Inc PINS EthanPhan 10 $34.98
149 Planet 13 Holdings Inc PLNHF MMatter1 3 $2.67
43 Plug Power Inc PLUG lukwas_ 4 $11.28
147 Polaris Infrastructure Inc RAMPF CaptainCanuck93 1 $11.50
120 Prologis Inc PLD ImPinkSnail 5 $105.07
250 PROSHARES TULTRA MSCI JAPAN EZJ Necessary_Club_6714 1 $32.13
132 PROSHARES TULTRAPRO QQQ TQQQ iggy555, Guiterrezjm6 5 $126.99
48 Proto Labs Inc PRLB JEesSs 3 $130.13
166 Purple Innovation Inc PRPL jloy88, CharlieBrown364, RemiMartin 6 $23.95
44 Raytheon Technologies Corp RTX anon2019L 21 $61.23
210 Razer Inc RAZFF ThatOneRedditBro 1 $0.22
32 Realty Income Corp O bushysmalls 5 $62.72
199 Redfin Corp RDFN shreddit47 8 $43.69
206 RENAULT S A/ADR RNLSY jw8700 1 $5.33
178 Retractable Technologies, Inc. RVP EmreCanPuns 1 $10.18
94 Rigel Pharmaceuticals, Inc. RIGL Gay_Demons 1 $2.58
203 Rite Aid Corporation RAD ManagerMilkshake 1 $15.05
12 Rocky Mountain Chocolate Factory, Inc. RMCF howtoreadspaghetti 1 $3.20
163 Schrodinger Inc SDGR TipasaNuptials, asianmarysue, RattleGoreBitcoin 1 $71.17
72 Sea Ltd SE scatterblodded, tradeintel828384839, thug_funnie, Meymo 16 $129.00
215 ServiceNow Inc NOW cookingboy 1 $431.21
189 Shiloh Industries, Inc. SHLO brainbroked 1 $1.40
82 Shopify Inc SHOP AwesomeMathUse -1 $1,053.12
213 Sibanye Stillwater Ltd SBSW marqui4me 1 $11.39
231 Simulations Plus, Inc. SLP hellohi3 1 $65.83
173 SiTime Corp SITM drbh_ 1 $58.92
248 Six Flags Entertainment Corp SIX EthosPathosLegos 1 $18.38
202 Slack Technologies Inc WORK AntwanDixon_ 2 $28.95
51 SmileDirectClub Inc SDC meeni131 3 $9.05
49 Solaredge Technologies Inc SEDG m4r1vs 14 $211.47
27 Sony Corp SNE drorhac 13 $80.03
177 Sorrento Therapeutics Inc SRNE DowJonesLocker 1 $14.42
225 SPARTAN ENERGY /SH SPAQ bigsexy12 1 $12.36
40 Spirit Airlines Incorporated SAVE Matous_Palecek 0 $17.28
153 Spotify Technology SA SPOT _Hard4Jesus 0 $252.12
7 Square Inc SQ cuti95, ConstructivePlayer, Lfastrsx, jercky, CharlieBrown364 21 $147.22
1 StoneCo Ltd STNE GromGrommeta 73 $49.06
104 SunPower Corporation SPWR Hadouukken 1 $11.86
60 Sunrun Inc RUN FactualNeutronStar 2 $46.00
195 Switch Inc SWCH gce1010 1 $18.03
83 Taal Distributed Information Techs Inc TAAL AwesomeMathUse 1 $1.85
76 Taiwan Semiconductor Mfg. Co. Ltd. TSM Paks_12345, sogladatwork, BlissfulThinkr 13 $80.03
102 Tandem Diabetes Care Inc TNDM liao24 1 $104.15
169 Target Corporation TGT Kosher-Bacon 1 $131.75
26 Tesla Inc TSLA Skurinator, goldcakes, redmars1234, Drortmeyer2017 3 $1,452.71
137 TJX Companies Inc TJX princess-smartypants 3 $55.45
18 Toronto-Dominion Bank TD robbierox123 0 $45.77
141 TPI Composites Inc TPIC polwas 1 $28.81
53 Trade Desk Inc TTD all_hail_hypno, Kay312010 6 $493.20
106 TransMedics Group Inc TMDX DropoutEngy 1 $18.05
131 TransUnion TRU AndyCircus 0 $87.38
78 Travelcenters of America Inc TA jk_tilt 1 $17.27
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243 Trulieve Cannabis Corp TCNNF grphelps1, Cucumber_Cooling 2 $18.83
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Transcript of how Philip the tyrant admin of the Bitcoin Cash Telegram group called Spoice stupid, an idiot, a parrot among other insults then banned her instead of discussing Bitcoin Cash. That Telegram group is hostile, ABC/IFP shills run and follows the rBitcoin toxic censorship modus operandi.

David B., [18.10.20 01:46]
https://www.reddit.com/btc/comments/jdagi3/whats_up_with_the_bchn_hypocrisy/

David B., [18.10.20 01:47]
Wut x2

J Stodd, [18.10.20 01:49]
[In reply to David B.]
Their words are meaningless. They have no principles. Wish i could comment but bitcoinxio banned me from rbtc and never told me why

David B., [18.10.20 01:59]
These comments are so toxic

Spoice, [18.10.20 01:59]
In reality, the real continuation of Bitcoin as we all know it is what is carried on by BCHN, BU, BCHD and others

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:00]
ABC is changing the rules to something that is not Bitcoin

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:00]
anyone denying those facts is selling you snake oil

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:00]
If Blockstream tried to take some % to their own benefit, we would have never needed BCH in the first place

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:00]
everyone would have rejected them in a second

J Stodd, [18.10.20 02:01]
[In reply to Spoice]
Bitcoin Cash is not Bitcoin to start with, so who cares?

David B., [18.10.20 02:01]
[ Album ]

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:01]
yet we have ABC trying to pull this theft and all those puppets think it's ok

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:01]
JSTodd that's bullshit

David B., [18.10.20 02:01]
Like trying to talk to a core maxi about altcoins

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:01]
Bitcoin Cash is the most Bitcoin out of all Bitcoins

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:01]
it is the continuation of what Satoshi started

David B., [18.10.20 02:02]
Tbh they aren't even toxic

Michael Nunzio, [18.10.20 02:02]
[In reply to Spoice]
If the hash follows then it is Bitcoin Cash. Only if it doesn't is your claim true

J Stodd, [18.10.20 02:03]
[In reply to Spoice]
Bitcoin is Bitcoin. Bitcoin failed to be Peer to Peer Cash, so Bitcoin Cash attempted to fix this by forking Bitcoin and attacking the root of the problem. This does not mean Bitcoin Cash is literally Bitcoin. Adopt a different argument. Sorry if you bought into that bc of Rogers rantings

J Stodd, [18.10.20 02:05]
Bitcoin Cash can replace Bitcoin, and if Bitcoin dies and BCH wins then sure maybe it can take its name from its grave, but they are different products, trying to say Bitcoin stopped being "Bitcoin" and became BCH is a self contradiction.

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:08]
Jstodd's got some good points.

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:08]
He's learnt so much in the last year ☺️

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:08]
"Bitcoin is Bitcoin" is a false statement. BTC is just an instance of Bitcoin. Bitcoin is the set of rules defined in the whitepaper first and foremost, it is peer to peer electronic cash. BTC no longer fits that criteria. Bitcoin Cash meets them. The fork proposed by ABC also fails to meet that criteria. Therefore the continuation of Bitcoin is in whatever BU, BCHN, Flowee and others will continue.

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:09]
What rules were defined in the WP?

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:10]
Let's see which rules aren't: 1) No coinbase tax going to any centralized entity such as ABC 2) No throttling of TX throughput such as BTC

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:10]
therefore they both fail the simple "Is this Bitcoin?" test

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:11]
Finally, Michael, if you think Hash rate defines what Bitcoin is, you should stick to BTC

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:11]
21 million coins isn't in the WP

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:11]
I asked what rules did the WP define.

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:12]
Because BCH failed that criteria since it forked, therefore your point is wrong

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:12]
https://www.metzdowd.com/pipermail/cryptography/2009-January/014994.html

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:12]
The announcement of the white paper included the 21 million limit, close enough

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:12]
HIs announcement isn't the WP

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:12]
show me where Satoshi said that Amaury shoudl tax the chain?

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:12]
Doesn't matter- close enough

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:12]
Bitcoin is the set of rules defined in the whitepaper first and foremost - You

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:13]
My ears pricked up on that comment, so I'm asking you what you meant.

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:13]
Correct. Changing the 21 million hard limit is still more Bitcoin than taxing the Coinbase, yet both will never ever happen. Not to Bitcoin anyway

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:13]
If you meant Satoj's writings pre and post WP then you should be clear about it

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:13]
some bastardized chain might, just not Bitcoin

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:14]
The closest we have to anything to indicate what is "Bitcoiness" is general things like "the longest chain"

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:14]
No, it is never a single thing

David B., [18.10.20 02:15]
REEEE

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:15]
trustless, no single trusted third parties, and rules can change due to incentives via consensus

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:15]
it is a set of common sense and experiment driven and historical relevance and initial parameters and "peer to peer electronic cash" definition indicators

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:15]
never a single thing

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:16]
[In reply to Spoice]
This is like the exact opposite of what you said earlier

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:16]
Bitcoin is defined by the rules in the WP, I mean common sense.

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:16]
🤷‍♂️

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:16]
Nope, the rule set is defined in the white paper should never change, but I never said all rules are defined in the white paper

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:16]
What rules?

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:16]
It is a union

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:17]
What rules are there?

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:17]
Rules in the white paper + what continued to define Bitcoin thereafter

J Stodd, [18.10.20 02:17]
[In reply to Spoice]
> "Bitcoin is Bitcoin is a false statement."
Alas, if we cannot agree on the law of identity, aka A=A, then i dont understand how to hold a conversation with you using logic.
> BTC is an instance of Bitcoin
No, BTC is a ticker used optionally by exchanges. Other common tickers for bitcoin include XBC, XBT, BC (correct me if im wrong on any of these)
> "Bitcoin is a set of rules in the whitepaper"
Super hard to defend this. Theres no mention of a 21M supply cap, no blocksize limit *at all*, and it also says additional rules and incentives can be enforced (implying maybe they should).

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:17]
I go through this with BSVers all the time. We have no spec sheet of rules defining what Bitcoin is from Satoshi.

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:18]
Rules such as what defines a correct block, miners receiving the full incentive of mining it, etc

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:18]
The WP is a highlevel document

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:18]
The WP is a description of a scientific experiment

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:18]
if you want to start your own experiment, be my guest

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:18]
[In reply to Spoice]
Valid tx rules aren't defined in the WP

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:18]
just don't try to call it Bitcoin

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:19]
The word majority is in the WP an awful lot wouldn't you say?

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:19]
Not valid TX rules, but what a proof of work block is and how it diverts the reward to the miner, etc

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:20]
[In reply to Spoice]
and? what about BTC doesn't apply?

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:20]
I'm not arguing for any fork of BCH here.

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:20]
It no longer meets the very title of the white paper experiment, "Peer to peer electronic cash"

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:20]
The BTC instance of the experiment is destined to move away from the very title of the white paper

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:20]
It's electronic, and I use it like cash.

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:20]
that the maintainers even wanted to edit the white paper (Cobra and co) because of this fact

J Stodd, [18.10.20 02:20]
u/Spoice When did BTC stop being Bitcoin in your view? The day Amaury decided to launch the fork, before Segwit happened?
If someone else launched a fork first, they would have been "the real bitcoin"?
This is a game of whoever forks first becomes the real Bitcoin?
What if two people launched a fork at the exact same time, maybe even with identical specs?

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:21]
Where did I go wrong?

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:21]
[In reply to Spoice]
Did they?

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:21]
Doesn't matter if you use it today, its very technical fabric will have to move your transactions to 2nd layers and it will no longer be peer to peer electronic cash on chain

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:21]
peer to peer electronic cash on chain - Not in the wp

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:22]
We have satoj talking about HFT with sidechannels.

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:22]
So what?

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:23]
I think this is a good discussion Phil, nothing disrespectful is being said. I hope this is ok?

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:23]
Doesn't matter, the rule of common sense, which is closer to that title? Increasing a simple variable (Blocksize) to stay on track of the title and experiment, or introduce IOUs and Watchtowers and channels and locked BTC and that whole LN Bastardization? Which is close to the title?

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:23]
No one said that can't happen

Michael Nunzio, [18.10.20 02:24]
[In reply to Spoice]
Congratulations you've made an argument which isn't an argument.

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:25]
The whole thing that was said was the system is based on majority rules, and incentives can be changed. Majority breaks any deadlock.

David B., [18.10.20 02:25]
How to kill a coin 101

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:25]
Logic fails anyone who tries to claim BTC, ABC, BSV or any similar standalone experiments as Bitcoin, because of simple sanity checks and logic checks, often stemming out of common sense - If what you have moves you a single step away from what is otherwise the same old experiment which Satoshi wrote about and unleashed, you're not Bitcoin. If what you have moves you a step closer, it is Bitcoin. and so on and so forth.

Phlip - Not giving away coins, [18.10.20 02:25]
Wow, really fanatical almost religious statements. I guess its Sunday morning.

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:27]
[In reply to Spoice]
There's nothing common about common sense. You point to the WP to make a point, and your point isn't in there.

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:27]
Throttled and you need off-chain IOUs and always-on services to function (BTC) ? Not Bitcoin. Requires permission to be used and could be centrally confiscated on the whim of the organization behind it (BSV)? Not Bitcoin. Premined (Bitcoin Gold, Diamond)? Not Bitcoin. Taxing the miners through Coinbase and changing the incentives which were at play since day 0 (ABC)? Not Bitcoin

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:27]
simple checks really, yet those who are set to benefit will of course be oblivious to these

Phlip - Not giving away coins, [18.10.20 02:28]
This whole “Bitcoin Cash is the true Bitcoin - see whitepaper” is really stupid. It also ignores the history of how Bitcoin Cash came into existence

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:28]
Phillip, remove anyone here that has said Bitcoin Gold was the original Bitcoin immediately

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:28]
^^^^

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:29]
[In reply to Phlip - Not giving away coins]
It falls to pieces the moment it's questioned.

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:29]
It is not about "True" Bitcoin

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:30]
It is about the Bitcoin closest to the experiment which always was

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:30]
I don't care about "True" or not, they all are true

Phlip - Not giving away coins, [18.10.20 02:30]
[In reply to Jingles]
Sorry, I hve stopped reading all the sillyness above. Will reread later

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:30]
[In reply to Phlip - Not giving away coins]
I'm joking around 😂

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:30]
but the rule of entropy says I shouldn't place my money nor effort in experiments which are set to fade eventually, because they have skewed incentives

Phlip - Not giving away coins, [18.10.20 02:31]
[In reply to Spoice]
You get to chose that for yourself but you do not get to dictate it for others

David B., [18.10.20 02:31]
[In reply to Phlip - Not giving away coins]
Don't read it. You will have no braincells left

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:31]
Bitcoin as we know it has a long track record of incentives which work

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:31]
I won't ever dictate it for others

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:31]
I only would dictate it for myself, just like how I never use BTC or BSV today, I won't use ABC tomorrow

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:32]
only because they're new experiments

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:32]
interesting, and I wish them luck

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:32]
"Bitcoin is Bitcoin" is a false statement - Spoice 2020

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:32]
but I would rather stick to the Bitcoin I know

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:32]
that's all

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:32]
I won't ever dictate it for others - Also Spoice
Phlip - Not giving away coins, [18.10.20 02:32]
Bitcoin Cash came with a plan snd goals. They were clearly presented in two presentations that happened before viabtc announced they would mine with ABC software and create a coin and chain named Bitcoin Cash

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:32]
Yes, because he means BTC is Bitcoin, and that's a false statement

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:32]
How is it false?

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:32]
It is an instance of Bitcoin

Jc Crown [ I DON'T DM PEOPLE - DON'T GIVE ME MONEY! ], [18.10.20 02:33]
[In reply to Michael Nunzio]
you're looking intimidatingly handsome in your new profile picture

Phlip - Not giving away coins, [18.10.20 02:33]
[In reply to Jc Crown [ I DON'T DM PEOPLE - DON'T GIVE ME MONEY! ]]
Lol

Jc Crown [ I DON'T DM PEOPLE - DON'T GIVE ME MONEY! ], [18.10.20 02:33]
[In reply to J Stodd]
actually a good question

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:34]
Anyway, those are my two cents

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:34]
Everyone is free to choose which experiments to pour their effort on and their money in

Phlip - Not giving away coins, [18.10.20 02:34]
[In reply to Spoice]
You are entitled to your opinion.

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:34]
Andreas is publishing Lightning Network books, I mean

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:34]
So to each his own

Phlip - Not giving away coins, [18.10.20 02:35]
[In reply to Spoice]
Lets leave it at that

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:35]
but Bitcoin as I know it continues with no Tax, and that in my opinion is BCH with no tax

Phlip - Not giving away coins, [18.10.20 02:35]
Ah you had to continue

Phlip - Not giving away coins, [18.10.20 02:36]
Good thing no tax is proposed by anyone
Spoice, [18.10.20 02:35]
Isn't this the Bitcoin Cash telegram?

Jc Crown [ I DON'T DM PEOPLE - DON'T GIVE ME MONEY! ], [18.10.20 02:35]
😅

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:36]
If I don't discuss Bitcoin Cash here, where should I?

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:36]
Tax, IFP, call it what you will

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:36]
from my perspective as a user, it's one the same

J Stodd, [18.10.20 02:36]
[In reply to Jc Crown [ I DON'T DM PEOPLE - DON'T GIVE ME MONEY! ]]
I bet nobody will answer it, either

Phlip - Not giving away coins, [18.10.20 02:37]
[In reply to Spoice]
Apparently btc /s

David B., [18.10.20 02:37]
[In reply to Spoice]
As a user what do you care?

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:37]
Ooh, can I shill the Bitcoin room in here?

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:37]
Nah, I prefer quick responses and chats

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:37]
Reddit is broken

Phlip - Not giving away coins, [18.10.20 02:37]
[In reply to Jingles]
Lol

J Stodd, [18.10.20 02:37]
[In reply to Spoice]
Nobody even pays it, it just comes out of the block reward. The block reward is not sentient, it cannot be stolen from or wronged

Phlip - Not giving away coins, [18.10.20 02:37]
Dont push your luck 😉

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:37]
[ 😀 Sticker ]

Michael Nunzio, [18.10.20 02:38]
[In reply to Jc Crown [ I DON'T DM PEOPLE - DON'T GIVE ME MONEY! ]]
You too brother. 🙏

Jc Crown [ I DON'T DM PEOPLE - DON'T GIVE ME MONEY! ], [18.10.20 02:38]
[In reply to Michael Nunzio]
but mine is the same....i need new ones everyone always calls me fat because of this one

Jc Crown [ I DON'T DM PEOPLE - DON'T GIVE ME MONEY! ], [18.10.20 02:38]
literally if i say 1 thing to any troll anywhere first thing they say is "ok fatass"

Jc Crown [ I DON'T DM PEOPLE - DON'T GIVE ME MONEY! ], [18.10.20 02:38]
i blame this dumb photographer

Michael Nunzio, [18.10.20 02:38]
[In reply to Jc Crown [ I DON'T DM PEOPLE - DON'T GIVE ME MONEY! ]]
Don't listen.

Phlip - Not giving away coins, [18.10.20 02:39]
u/spoice maybe write a read.cash article if you really feel you need to educate people

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:39]
David, as a user I believe that each new experiment carries risk with it, why should I take part in a new fork of Bitcoin which has a new set of game-theory rules which doesn't even benefit me, rather it benefits some other entity which will take 5% of any effort or economic activity I produce on this chain? They're also off-loading the risk to me as a usebuildebusiness who choose to join their experiment.

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:40]
Why should I take that risk while the Bitcoin I know and have known for over 10 years worked perfectly for me thus far? (BCH, that is)

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:40]
small fees and empty blocks?

Jc Crown [ I DON'T DM PEOPLE - DON'T GIVE ME MONEY! ], [18.10.20 02:41]
It will insure that a centralized group has control over development and they are by decree in the code, it's a literal take over.

Phlip - Not giving away coins, [18.10.20 02:41]
[In reply to Spoice]
“BSV-freeze the protocol - true Bitcoin” sounds like more your thing

David B., [18.10.20 02:41]
[In reply to Spoice]
Better run bitcoin core 0.1

Jc Crown [ I DON'T DM PEOPLE - DON'T GIVE ME MONEY! ], [18.10.20 02:41]
Imagine if satoshi keyd his address in the code to be paid out of every block, but instead of paying himself started a company "Bitcoin Dev Co"

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:42]
Not really, BSV kills the incentives I am discussing too

Phlip - Not giving away coins, [18.10.20 02:42]
[In reply to Jingles]
Please stay nice now

Jc Crown [ I DON'T DM PEOPLE - DON'T GIVE ME MONEY! ], [18.10.20 02:42]
No one would ever be able to say Bitcoin was Decentralized, Bitcoin Dev Co would get paid directly from the reward.

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:42]
[In reply to Phlip - Not giving away coins]
"BSV: We have all the Bad Idea. On chain"

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:42]
The Nash equilibrium we have tested for the past 10 years will be changed with ABC, it changed with BTC and BSV too

Jc Crown [ I DON'T DM PEOPLE - DON'T GIVE ME MONEY! ], [18.10.20 02:42]
"Bad Solutions Verified"

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:42]
that game-theory set of incentives

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:43]
why would I want to take a risk with any of those experiments when I gain 0?

David B., [18.10.20 02:43]
Better run bitcoin core 0.1

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:43]
Nope, you're talking technical freezing of development, that's not what I am addressing

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:43]
[In reply to David B.]
Thats the BTC chain though

Phlip - Not giving away coins, [18.10.20 02:43]
[In reply to Spoice]
O please share with us your background in the subject. Or are you now just parroting others

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:44]
BSV wants to freeze the technical development and they want a stable protocol from an API/development perspective

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:44]
but from an incentive ruleset perspective, they already butchered the equilibrium Bitcoin had

Jc Crown [ I DON'T DM PEOPLE - DON'T GIVE ME MONEY! ], [18.10.20 02:44]
[In reply to Phlip - Not giving away coins]
That's one of those phrases, when you hear it you know they are just a parrot of someones propaganda. "MUH NASH EQUILIBRIUM!"

David B., [18.10.20 02:44]
Stable = bad?

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:45]
[In reply to Jc Crown [ I DON'T DM PEOPLE - DON'T GIVE ME MONEY! ]]
I love you

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:45]
Philip, for an admin you are ought to be nicer, if you think I am parroting others you're free to think that, but to state it so bluntly in your position is just... wrong

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:46]
If you think the point I made is wrong, discuss it

Phlip - Not giving away coins, [18.10.20 02:46]
[In reply to Jingles]
Maybe talk to him in DM about that?😉

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:46]
not me

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:46]
[In reply to Phlip - Not giving away coins]
working on it.

Phlip - Not giving away coins, [18.10.20 02:46]
[In reply to Spoice]
I ought to be nicer...😂😂😂

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:47]
Also, anyone who studied Bitcoin at length and its set of incentives and game-theory ruleset should know what a Nash Equilibrium is and who the players are in the Bitcoin game

Phlip - Not giving away coins, [18.10.20 02:47]
[In reply to Spoice]
You state as fact. You get to dhow why your statements or opinions are even relevant.

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:48]
If it's not a fact, highlight how

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:48]
don't attack me

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:48]
prove me wrong

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:48]
if you fail that simple debate test

David B., [18.10.20 02:48]
How's that breakfast helping?

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:48]
you should rename from Janitor to Tyrant

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:48]
I'm still waiting to see the defined rules as per the wp

Michael Nunzio, [18.10.20 02:49]
[In reply to Spoice]
Didn't know this was stand up comedy night in here.

Michael Nunzio, [18.10.20 02:49]
I missed the memo

Phlip - Not giving away coins, [18.10.20 02:49]
If I have to prove all idiots on the internet wrong I would have a hard time. You are starting to really waste everybody’s time. You state, you prove. Or you are just generating noise

Phlip - Not giving away coins, [18.10.20 02:50]
[In reply to Spoice]
Be careful now.

Michael Nunzio, [18.10.20 02:50]
Noisy bugger.

Phlip - Not giving away coins, [18.10.20 02:52]
Getting close to just do some cleaning up.

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:52]
If you can't debate technical points I am making about Bitcoin Cash on a Bitcoin Cash Telegram, and within the span of 10 minutes you called me stupid, idiot, noisy and a parrot, you absolutely are a tyrant and I stand by my point: You should not be an admin here, nor anywhere actually. If you think I should be careful for the fear of you banning me, go ahead. You still fail to debate the simplest technical point and yet claim you can "but can't be bothered to". You remind me of that Thermos guy.

Spoice, [18.10.20 02:53]
How do people with 0 technical know how end up in these admin positions is beyond me

Jingles, [18.10.20 02:53]
I challenged your comments and you just changed the goal posts.

Phlip - Not giving away coins, [18.10.20 02:53]
[In reply to Spoice]
Ok. You are not paying me and you are free to create noise elsewhere
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